“Opening of the competition will take place overnight”

“Opening of the competition will take place overnight”

June 4, 2022 at 10:00 p.m.

Catherine Guillouard (57) is used to the crisis. As a young ENA intern, she had to deal with a serious train accident in Melun on the first day in the prefecture. Since then, the former ski champion – who has retained her red instructor outfit – has a wealth of experience in both the public and private sectors (Treasury, Air France, Eutelsat, Rexel) before taking over the chairmanship of the public transport giant. in 2017 ..

You replaced Élisabeth Borne five years ago. What did you think when you found out about his appointment to Matignon?
As CEO of RATP, I felt great collective pride. And emotions to see the woman who took over the leadership of Matignon. Elisabeth Borne is a brave woman who I respect very much. Its quality of dialogue with all stakeholders and its commitment to sustainable development are well established.

In the face of the fiasco at the Stade de France on May 28, some cite the RER B strike as an aggravating factor. how do you answer them?
As for the social movement on RER B, it was planned and announced. Four of the five trains ran between 17:00 and the end of the B RER line to serve the stadium. In addition, passengers were offered communication equipment with audio messages broadcast in French, English and Spanish, which told them which lines to take and which stops to serve the stadium.

Were there enough agents?
Three hundred and fifty were mobilized at Nation (fan zone), Gare de Lyon, Châtelet-les-Halles and also on line 13 (which also serves the Stade de France) to inform passengers but also streamline their circulation in the premises. The whole system was shared with all stakeholders before the event.

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There have been recent strikes by bus drivers. Where is the social dialogue?
He is rich and extremely nourished. In April, we agreed with the three unions on night work. The main topic is because there are 400 construction sites every night. And this week, we signed a historic agreement with two unions for our 12,000 executives. It is very important for the transformation of the company at a time when opening up to competition is approaching, because it introduces new rules of remuneration based on individual merits, which make it possible to better retain talent.

What are your priorities before the competition on 1 January 2025 for buses in Paris and the inner suburbs?
Above all, a guarantee of continuity of public service at the highest level. And the respect of all players for a responsible social framework. Our ambition is to gain maximum market share, which will allow as many employees as possible to stay in the company. It’s a huge challenge: the transition will take place overnight, on December 31, 2024, for 19,000 employees, 350 lines, 4,700 buses and 25 depots. To avoid the big bang effect, we negotiate with the unions to gain in competitiveness. We terminated the working time agreements of our bus drivers with a winning proposal for the company and employees: to work one hundred and twenty hours more per year in exchange for the fourteenth month (2,600 euros gross) and the integration of a bonus of 400 euros in salary, taken into account for pensions. We want to avoid future social dumping. To this end, everyone must take responsibility.

Our ambition is to gain maximum market share, which will allow as many employees as possible to stay in the company.

Are you worried about opening up to the competition?
We have the courage and determination to prepare for this. As the leader of this group, I am concerned that RATP has vast know-how in managing mobility in dense areas. Especially when managing large events where traffic regulation is essential. However, existing information systems will in fact be “unraveled” with the arrival of new players. Mobility in Ile-de-France [IDFM]transport authority, also has a huge challenge to overcome in order to avoid disruption.

The group invested 8.5 billion euros between 2016 and 2021. What major projects are underway?
With IDFM, we intend to invest 8.4 billion euros by 2024. For a portfolio of 200 projects with major industrial challenges, such as reducing greenhouse gas emissions from buses, which represents an investment of € 1.8 billion, of which 1.3 will be dedicated to the purchase of new buses. Last year we acquired 600 of them and in 2022 we will buy another 500. It is unique in Europe. No other operator will change this range in such a short time. The second transformation concerns the replacement of 60% of rolling stock by 2033 and the unprecedented modernization of our service workshops. Another revolution.

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And abroad?
Our subsidiary RATP Dev employs 27,000 people and in 2021 generated sales of 1.35 billion euros, an increase of 14% and total sales of 5.8 billion. We are present in 14 countries. And in competition on three major projects in Canada, Australia and soon in Singapore.

What other diversifications are you watching?
I want to use all the expertise of the company. Especially with regard to the city, especially real estate, with two specific subsidiaries. We aim to have a turnover of 400 million – and the construction of 4,000 housing units – by 2032. The group is a giant in the field of public transport, with eight modes of transport operated in-house and with many skills. RATP is clearly present underground, which is why our development in the field of fiber optics, where we won the Grand Paris Express contract against major telecommunications operators. We think of urban logistics by renting some of our depots to carriers such as Amazon or Chronopost during the day. The group has an incredible storehouse of know-how and talent.

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